rcr_bulk
08-25 03:56 PM
Ask them to connect you to the head/Senior executive. I did the same thing with my local cable+phone and was connected to a the head of their customer Service. That person connected me to more senior marketing person. That marketing person called me and emailed me to discuss. The company had no idea about Vonage plan and seemed unprepared to have a strategy to stop the exodus of its customers to Vonage.
All of you can do the same. When more people do it, it will generate market demand and customer demand that money hungry capitalist companies cannot ignore. If you do not do it, then one company will have monopoly over this market.
I agree.
All of you can do the same. When more people do it, it will generate market demand and customer demand that money hungry capitalist companies cannot ignore. If you do not do it, then one company will have monopoly over this market.
I agree.
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gc_buddy
09-15 02:13 PM
Will call each and everyone of them.
dhesha
08-16 03:08 PM
Finally I got the CPO email today. After 10 years (first GC was filed in 2001), it was our turn today. I received for me and my wife both.
Good luck to all who are waiting!!!!
Good luck to all who are waiting!!!!
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chanduv23
06-18 11:00 AM
I am not on L1, neither do I work in the kind of an assignment which will come under the radar due to this - but have many friends on L1. Hence I think I may have a slightly more balanced and perhaps somewhat sobering POV on this.
Since I have many friends on L1 - I know pretty well how they are abused by their employers. Just the fact that you cant quit the employer enables some forms of abuse so subtle that they will not stand in any court of law. So I hope for the sake of people on L1, and to uphold the rule of law - that this abuse stops. If it does - their employers would be forced to bring them in H1 - which is far less prone to abuse due to the portability.
However, the current "run to the DOL/ICE" approach that you guys are taking may have repurcussions well beyond you had bargained for. Think of it from the POV of a client manager (lets take the example of, say, a goldman manager). He has his hands full of sucking up to his boss, playing the internal politics and in his spare time doing some work. 99% of them (even those who actually immigrated themselves) have no appetite to get into the details of immigration law. So, as soon as there is a backlash on this - their immediate response would be to take the safest route out and require Citizenship/GC for all positions.
As soon as that wave starts - many of us are going to get burnt. Many of us who have EAD, including yours truely, would probably be able to sneak through without too much of an issue (since it is illegal to discriminate against EADs) - however, many others who are not so fortunate would probably not fare so well. Most probably what will happen is that as soon as a recruiter sees brown skin and hears some trace of an accent - alerm bells would go off in the mind to check if this guy is GC holder or a citizen.
The enabler of the L1 abuse is the non-portability of these visas. We cant do much about that in the current environment. But going all gung ho in terms of enforcement right now -when there is a recession in full swing - may not be in the best interest of any of us.
The issue is that a lot of people on L1 come to US with an intent to *immigrate* permanantly and are not aware of the complexity inthe law. They think that they can wait it out by staying with their employer till the GC comes and thus are subject to exploitation.
So many people on l1 actually look for h1b jobs and move on towards working towards their citizenship.
While everyone want to immigrate to the US - which is the case with everyone - one also has to understand the law and work through the law - it is hard - but believe me folks - it is rewarding too.
Since I have many friends on L1 - I know pretty well how they are abused by their employers. Just the fact that you cant quit the employer enables some forms of abuse so subtle that they will not stand in any court of law. So I hope for the sake of people on L1, and to uphold the rule of law - that this abuse stops. If it does - their employers would be forced to bring them in H1 - which is far less prone to abuse due to the portability.
However, the current "run to the DOL/ICE" approach that you guys are taking may have repurcussions well beyond you had bargained for. Think of it from the POV of a client manager (lets take the example of, say, a goldman manager). He has his hands full of sucking up to his boss, playing the internal politics and in his spare time doing some work. 99% of them (even those who actually immigrated themselves) have no appetite to get into the details of immigration law. So, as soon as there is a backlash on this - their immediate response would be to take the safest route out and require Citizenship/GC for all positions.
As soon as that wave starts - many of us are going to get burnt. Many of us who have EAD, including yours truely, would probably be able to sneak through without too much of an issue (since it is illegal to discriminate against EADs) - however, many others who are not so fortunate would probably not fare so well. Most probably what will happen is that as soon as a recruiter sees brown skin and hears some trace of an accent - alerm bells would go off in the mind to check if this guy is GC holder or a citizen.
The enabler of the L1 abuse is the non-portability of these visas. We cant do much about that in the current environment. But going all gung ho in terms of enforcement right now -when there is a recession in full swing - may not be in the best interest of any of us.
The issue is that a lot of people on L1 come to US with an intent to *immigrate* permanantly and are not aware of the complexity inthe law. They think that they can wait it out by staying with their employer till the GC comes and thus are subject to exploitation.
So many people on l1 actually look for h1b jobs and move on towards working towards their citizenship.
While everyone want to immigrate to the US - which is the case with everyone - one also has to understand the law and work through the law - it is hard - but believe me folks - it is rewarding too.
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QB_man
02-29 04:06 AM
one update: after a month the consulate asked me for a scaned copy of my I-797 aproval. sent it to them the that very day. called them up two days later to confirm if they recieved it and if the processing was done? the answer was "yes we recieved it" and "sir, it will take time" .. has anyone been requested for a scanned copy of their 797 by Chennai or other consulate?
by the way my details:
petition approved: March 2006
transfer application: switched jobs
Interview : Chennai jan 28th
frustrating..
by the way my details:
petition approved: March 2006
transfer application: switched jobs
Interview : Chennai jan 28th
frustrating..
gclife
06-29 07:29 PM
Did AILA screwed up the party of many july filers by sending this memo http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/aila-cis-vb.pdf to uscis which scared them and prompting them to come up with the legal proof revised bulletin causing this whole mess. Should AILA had waited until july , then we would probably have a strong legal ground to fight against the uscis ??
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rajsenthil
09-24 01:09 PM
This maths makes good sense. Thanks for your time for preparing this and posting it.
28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB3-India + Spillover from EB2 and EB1, not more than 10,000 of which to "Other Workers".
28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB2-India + spillover from EB1
28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB1-India + spillover from EB4 and EB5
Each category is 28.6% WW Quota.
WW Quota consists of 5 country specific sub-quotas 1)India 2)China 3) Mexico 4) Philipines 5)ROW.
Based on page 1, I do math as under for Philippines categories.
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1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 70 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 1890
2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 0 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1890 + EB5 spillover 1960 = 11858 - pending 74 = Total
11784 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11784 =19792, Pending: 510, So total 19282 VISA numbers will be spilled
over to EB3.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 19282 spill over =27290 - 11563 Pending = 15727 VISA extra.
6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 264 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 15727-264 = 15463 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
of other countries.
Based on page 3, I do math as under for ROW categories.
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1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 1378 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 582
2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 40 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1920
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 582 + EB5 spillover 1920 = 10510 - pending 2477 = Total
8033 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 8033 =16031, Pending: 7150, So total 8881 VISA numbers will be spilled
over to EB3.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 8881 spill over =16889. Pending: 62840 -16889 = 45951 applications will
still be pending and pushed to year 2011.
Based on page 4, I do math as under for China categories.
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1) Quota For EB4 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 384 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1576
2) Quota For EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 13 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1947
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1576 + EB5 spillover 1947 = 11531 - pending 607 =
Total 10924 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 10924 =18932, Pending: 19333, So total 401 applications will be pushed to
year 2011 with pending approval.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + no spillover = 8008 � 6343 Pending = 1665 visas Extra.
6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 30 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 1665-30 = 1635 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
of other countries.
Based on page 5, I do math as under for India categories.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 123 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 1960-123 = 1837
2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 13 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960-13 = 1947
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1837 + EB5 spillover 1947 = 11792 - pending 418 = Total
11374 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11374 =19382, Pending: 47728, So total 28346 applications will still be
pending for year 2011.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008, no spill over. Pending: 62607 -8008 = 54599 applications will still be pending
and pushed to year 2011.
Based on page 6, I do math as under for Mexico categories.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Quota For EB4 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 62 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960-62=1898
2) Quota For EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 0 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1898 + EB5 spillover 1960 = 11866 - pending 174 =
Total 11692 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11692 =19700, Pending: 211, So total 19489 applications will spill over to
EB3 category.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 19489 spillover = 27497 � 7878 Pending = 19619 visas Extra.
6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 8415 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 19619-8415 = 11204 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
of other countries.
TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 15463 + 1635 + 11204 = 28302.
Assuming these unused visas from Philippines, China and Mexico will be used for India, ROW equally India will benefit additional 14151 VISAS this year. Assuming all of these go to EB2 India Pushed down figure for EB2-India for the year 2011 will be 28346 � 14151 = 14195 pending EB2-I applications ready to go to year 2011.
28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB3-India + Spillover from EB2 and EB1, not more than 10,000 of which to "Other Workers".
28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB2-India + spillover from EB1
28.6%/5 = 5.72% for EB1-India + spillover from EB4 and EB5
Each category is 28.6% WW Quota.
WW Quota consists of 5 country specific sub-quotas 1)India 2)China 3) Mexico 4) Philipines 5)ROW.
Based on page 1, I do math as under for Philippines categories.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 70 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 1890
2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 0 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1890 + EB5 spillover 1960 = 11858 - pending 74 = Total
11784 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11784 =19792, Pending: 510, So total 19282 VISA numbers will be spilled
over to EB3.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 19282 spill over =27290 - 11563 Pending = 15727 VISA extra.
6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 264 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 15727-264 = 15463 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
of other countries.
Based on page 3, I do math as under for ROW categories.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 1378 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 582
2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 40 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1920
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 582 + EB5 spillover 1920 = 10510 - pending 2477 = Total
8033 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 8033 =16031, Pending: 7150, So total 8881 VISA numbers will be spilled
over to EB3.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 8881 spill over =16889. Pending: 62840 -16889 = 45951 applications will
still be pending and pushed to year 2011.
Based on page 4, I do math as under for China categories.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Quota For EB4 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 384 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1576
2) Quota For EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 13 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1947
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1576 + EB5 spillover 1947 = 11531 - pending 607 =
Total 10924 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 10924 =18932, Pending: 19333, So total 401 applications will be pushed to
year 2011 with pending approval.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + no spillover = 8008 � 6343 Pending = 1665 visas Extra.
6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 30 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 1665-30 = 1635 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
of other countries.
Based on page 5, I do math as under for India categories.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Quota for EB4 -->7% x 140000/5=1960, Pending: 123 Quota to be spilled over to EB1= 1960-123 = 1837
2) Quota for EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 13 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960-13 = 1947
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1837 + EB5 spillover 1947 = 11792 - pending 418 = Total
11374 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11374 =19382, Pending: 47728, So total 28346 applications will still be
pending for year 2011.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008, no spill over. Pending: 62607 -8008 = 54599 applications will still be pending
and pushed to year 2011.
Based on page 6, I do math as under for Mexico categories.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Quota For EB4 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 62 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960-62=1898
2) Quota For EB5 --> 7% x 140000 / 5 = 1960, Pending: 0 Quota to be spilled over to EB1 = 1960
3) Quota for EB1 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + EB4 spillover 1898 + EB5 spillover 1960 = 11866 - pending 174 =
Total 11692 will go to EB2
4) Quota for EB2 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 11692 =19700, Pending: 211, So total 19489 applications will spill over to
EB3 category.
5) Quota for EB3 --> 5.72% x 140000 = 8008 + 19489 spillover = 27497 � 7878 Pending = 19619 visas Extra.
6) �Other Workers� � Pending: 8415 TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 19619-8415 = 11204 UNUSED VISAS will go to the quota
of other countries.
TOTAL UNUSED VISAS = 15463 + 1635 + 11204 = 28302.
Assuming these unused visas from Philippines, China and Mexico will be used for India, ROW equally India will benefit additional 14151 VISAS this year. Assuming all of these go to EB2 India Pushed down figure for EB2-India for the year 2011 will be 28346 � 14151 = 14195 pending EB2-I applications ready to go to year 2011.
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WaldenPond
01-03 10:09 AM
It is Great news that Rep. Tom Price has already mentioned that he will push for these clauses in the bills in 2006.
We should continue to communicate with the congressman of our districts and states.
We should continue to communicate with the congressman of our districts and states.
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chanduv23
06-12 04:41 PM
My piece of advice -
I see that a lot of people are not happy about L1 visa holders replacing them or their collegues because the sponsering company is either not following the law or found a loophole.
It is natural to get angry and frustrated. But I would suggest - not to be insensitive to those people as it is not their fault. Treat them well and good and help them understand what it is and why are you concerned.
Do a proper assessemt on what exactly the issue is and definitely help ourselves to make sure fraud is not being committed.
I see that a lot of people are not happy about L1 visa holders replacing them or their collegues because the sponsering company is either not following the law or found a loophole.
It is natural to get angry and frustrated. But I would suggest - not to be insensitive to those people as it is not their fault. Treat them well and good and help them understand what it is and why are you concerned.
Do a proper assessemt on what exactly the issue is and definitely help ourselves to make sure fraud is not being committed.
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bugsbunny
04-06 06:13 PM
It was just a minor adjustment to make room for expenses towards advocacy day.
Those who came to the advocacy event on April 4th,5th, like me, and saw the amount of money and efforts that go into reserving a conference room in a hotel next to the Capitol Hill for 4 days, printing out thousands of documents, inviting staffers/congressmen for meetings, arranging an elaborate reception for them, preparing advocacy packets for close to 400 meetings etc etc. I am amazed how IV is even able to afford the expenditures with the relatively small number donors that it has.
Kudos to IV-Core and the volunteers.
This needs to be advertised on the forums here or on the home page. Most people don't know what IV's expenses are.
A generic breakdown of costs, without going into specifics, would help members understand the expenses and provide some transparency.
It may even motivate new members to contribute more :)
Those who came to the advocacy event on April 4th,5th, like me, and saw the amount of money and efforts that go into reserving a conference room in a hotel next to the Capitol Hill for 4 days, printing out thousands of documents, inviting staffers/congressmen for meetings, arranging an elaborate reception for them, preparing advocacy packets for close to 400 meetings etc etc. I am amazed how IV is even able to afford the expenditures with the relatively small number donors that it has.
Kudos to IV-Core and the volunteers.
This needs to be advertised on the forums here or on the home page. Most people don't know what IV's expenses are.
A generic breakdown of costs, without going into specifics, would help members understand the expenses and provide some transparency.
It may even motivate new members to contribute more :)
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admin
01-25 08:33 AM
AILA has created this document. We will have to make sure that our clauses are not removed from these bills like what happened at S1932.
http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/immreform106.pdf
http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/immreform106.pdf
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Ramg
08-21 05:56 PM
One can also sign-up for Annual Pre-Pay with Vonage which will cost $20 per month for the same World Plan. Vonage - Support - Annual Pre-Pay (http://www.vonage.com/support.php?keyword=AnnualPrePay)
Just pay $240 upfornt. I did the same. Now all the features of Vonage World for $20. :)
Today I asked the customer service, they told me, I have to 315 dollars for annual plan. 239.99 + taxes = 315 dollars
Just pay $240 upfornt. I did the same. Now all the features of Vonage World for $20. :)
Today I asked the customer service, they told me, I have to 315 dollars for annual plan. 239.99 + taxes = 315 dollars
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yabadaba
06-29 07:29 PM
my lawyer said the same thing about a revised bulletin...looks like its pretty close to being a sure thing now.
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abd
09-16 04:35 PM
Got Card Production Ordered today..
Priority Date - Nov 2005, EB2
Got an RFE last month, approved after RFE was responded..
Can u please share your RFE Details? I recetnly received RFE and preparing the documents.
Priority Date - Nov 2005, EB2
Got an RFE last month, approved after RFE was responded..
Can u please share your RFE Details? I recetnly received RFE and preparing the documents.
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WaldenPond
01-08 02:12 PM
I must say y'all are doing a commendable job. I have contributed $$ and would do so more in the future if needed.
I remember Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist saying that the comprehensive immigration reform bill will be handled in February 2006. Is the schedule still the same. I am keeping my fingers crossed and hope that everyone of us stuck in this immigration hell-hole will get a relief from the comprehensive immigration reform bills that (hopefully) will be passed in 02/06.
Thank you.
Hello PD073102VA,
Thank You for the contribution, positive feeback and encouragement. Please check you private message.
Thanks,
-WP
I remember Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist saying that the comprehensive immigration reform bill will be handled in February 2006. Is the schedule still the same. I am keeping my fingers crossed and hope that everyone of us stuck in this immigration hell-hole will get a relief from the comprehensive immigration reform bills that (hopefully) will be passed in 02/06.
Thank you.
Hello PD073102VA,
Thank You for the contribution, positive feeback and encouragement. Please check you private message.
Thanks,
-WP
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singhsa3
10-21 08:28 PM
Can you please state the source of ur information.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
========
There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
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There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
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pappu
06-25 06:12 PM
IV members have saved you a lot of money on attorney phone calls, getting answers to medical test questions and other general questions. Please contribute to IV so that we can keep this effort going. While everybody is busy collecting documents and paperwork for 485, core IV again is doing there personal paperwork and + lobbying.
Please contribute, especially if you are new and never contributed. Please do not be a freeloader and get your questions answered and run away.
I hope people who posted on this thread and those whose question got answered consider contributing to IV. This was an important question confronting lot of people and lawyers were giving different and vague answers. All the information was researched and given to our members. Everyone was spending hundreds of dollars each asking lawyers this question. Contributing is a way to express your support for the community.
Please contribute, especially if you are new and never contributed. Please do not be a freeloader and get your questions answered and run away.
I hope people who posted on this thread and those whose question got answered consider contributing to IV. This was an important question confronting lot of people and lawyers were giving different and vague answers. All the information was researched and given to our members. Everyone was spending hundreds of dollars each asking lawyers this question. Contributing is a way to express your support for the community.
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buehler
09-13 01:22 PM
Finally got greened. Got the CPO email for myself and my wife today. It has been more than 9.5 frustrating years since I came to this country. But I am finally happy that it came through.
I am even more happy that I did not just leave it to time. I have been heavily involved with IV from the beginning. I have spent plenty of time and money on IV and happy to see that it has benefited myself and others.
Don't loose heart. Keep fighting for what you think is fair.
I am even more happy that I did not just leave it to time. I have been heavily involved with IV from the beginning. I have spent plenty of time and money on IV and happy to see that it has benefited myself and others.
Don't loose heart. Keep fighting for what you think is fair.
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sc3
08-22 12:49 PM
Some one gave me this comment saying
"You continue to undermine IV with your nonsensical posts. I understand you are frustrated, but your comments are counterproductie at best. You also don't seem to understand the law properly. Do some homework."
Show me where have I undermined IV efforts? And show me nonsensical or counterproductive posts that I have made -- that is, nonsensical or counterproductive to the cause of upholding the law (not pandering to a particular employment category/chargeability area).
I have done my homework, and I have understood the law properly. I have time and again given logical proof, along with the text of the law, as to why EB3 is eligible get the EB1 numbers at the same time as EB2. On the other hand none of the detractors have provided proof, or material that shows EB3 does not qualify.
And for all those holier-than-thou EB2, what is about the letter campaign to get NSC/TSC to process application according to PDs (no lawful basis for that), and asking the removal of NSC bosses and what not. You seem to have different standards when you are suffering, and when others are suffering. There is a word in the dictionary for that, look it up.
"You continue to undermine IV with your nonsensical posts. I understand you are frustrated, but your comments are counterproductie at best. You also don't seem to understand the law properly. Do some homework."
Show me where have I undermined IV efforts? And show me nonsensical or counterproductive posts that I have made -- that is, nonsensical or counterproductive to the cause of upholding the law (not pandering to a particular employment category/chargeability area).
I have done my homework, and I have understood the law properly. I have time and again given logical proof, along with the text of the law, as to why EB3 is eligible get the EB1 numbers at the same time as EB2. On the other hand none of the detractors have provided proof, or material that shows EB3 does not qualify.
And for all those holier-than-thou EB2, what is about the letter campaign to get NSC/TSC to process application according to PDs (no lawful basis for that), and asking the removal of NSC bosses and what not. You seem to have different standards when you are suffering, and when others are suffering. There is a word in the dictionary for that, look it up.
mnkaushik
07-17 02:28 PM
Hi Ron,
My Priority date is Jan 2004, EB3-India category and i have an approved I-140 and have applied my 485 during July 07. I have sent my EAD and AP for renewal which expire in last week of September. My spouse is in EB2-India having pd Dec 2005, also applied I-485 (140 is approved) during July 07 and has applied for EAD and AP renewal, which expire in last week of October. We both applied independently and are using our H1bs and not EAds.
Since my spouse's PD is going to be current in August 2008, I was planning on applying for a second 485 as a dependent on my spouse's application.
I know that two 485 applications causes issues. I want your recommendation and also will my application affect my wife's processing time or create issues for her.
Thanks,
Kaushik
Ron's reply -
You don't need to file a new I-485. Make the CIS aware of your spouse's case and your eligibility under it as a dependent. Ask them to cross reference to the two cases.
You can follow this thread in the following link - http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5689
Also has anyone tried this approach and Also does anyone has expeirence being Ron's client?
My Priority date is Jan 2004, EB3-India category and i have an approved I-140 and have applied my 485 during July 07. I have sent my EAD and AP for renewal which expire in last week of September. My spouse is in EB2-India having pd Dec 2005, also applied I-485 (140 is approved) during July 07 and has applied for EAD and AP renewal, which expire in last week of October. We both applied independently and are using our H1bs and not EAds.
Since my spouse's PD is going to be current in August 2008, I was planning on applying for a second 485 as a dependent on my spouse's application.
I know that two 485 applications causes issues. I want your recommendation and also will my application affect my wife's processing time or create issues for her.
Thanks,
Kaushik
Ron's reply -
You don't need to file a new I-485. Make the CIS aware of your spouse's case and your eligibility under it as a dependent. Ask them to cross reference to the two cases.
You can follow this thread in the following link - http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5689
Also has anyone tried this approach and Also does anyone has expeirence being Ron's client?
pat123
09-20 07:01 PM
That's been my understanding all along. Applications are approved per the Notice Date, provided the applicant's PD is current. But I know, we've all seen exceptions to that rule. I guess this is more relevant in your case since you're current, but I'm not, so it doesn't really matter too much anyway. I just don't want any RFEs.
I think the program scoops up all the applications on that date and check whether the dates are current, pre adjudicated and available visa numbers. then it may move to the case officer or approval or "automagically" approves the Green card!!!!:D
I think the program scoops up all the applications on that date and check whether the dates are current, pre adjudicated and available visa numbers. then it may move to the case officer or approval or "automagically" approves the Green card!!!!:D
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